SHK's toxic "community"

[Joeblow5150]

Ellice stop being Toxic ffs lol

[Juris931]

I don't follow football but here in Italy 99% of man follow it
In 20 years I have never seen anyone admit that the enemy team won because stronger
Same in other sports, if you win they will say you are doped

Russians actively play on wolf server, there are like 6 russian' faction, they farm card point for global so they can use cards even if they don't buy many crowns
And the funny part is that they let you farm in their Countries if you play smart, while almost all others are greedy for the farmland they created and don't want anyone in

[marko7]

Ok, I must say something, a lot of you will not agree but I don't care ....

You got your asss kicked by Russians and now you are looking for excuses to stop play the game. You are tired of playing with all villages in war zone, wasting time for nothing because obviously whatever you do, for every raze/capture you make, it's like it has never been happen because amount of Russian players on the map .... you are tired of watching your villages all day, thinking about ID, counting faith points .... everything is * purple and there is no even a smallest indication that something will change in the future. And the most important thing - you are not enjoying a game anymore.

What are you afraid of ? That someone will call you pusssy, quiter?? So you must have some ''reason'' why you quit, anything but defeat from Russians, even if you don't really believe in that? That is ridiculous, no one will consider you less good player if you just say real reason why you are quitting, instead of this crap about Firefly .... at the end I will be the only one who stopped because defeat from Russians on the first place, then lack of time/got bored .....

And you, you stopped because Firefly made a mistake with roll back without peace time ..... Otherwise you would play until the end of the first age, fighting Russians no matter what ..... Yeah right

[meatball2k]

It is true Marko most people have quit because they simply have given up and think they cant win.

Instead of fighting on they just move on to the next work hoping they have better luck where as Russians do not have that mentality or not Russians but people who play fpor them as I assume from the minute they join there leadership tells them what to do and how to do it.

Again though the Russians all stick together as well so thye have huge numbers where as non Russian houses always like to lead there own houses and have a say in what goes in which is why there is many separate houses working to there own goals but unfortunately this seems to be easy for the Russians to play into there favour so they just divide and conquer.

For that brief period during xmas the "western" houses had shown that when working together there to much for the Russian alliance to deal with but when there separated there far to weak, I tried from day 1 to day 55 to get this going then tried again later on but houses are happy to sit aside and watch the annihilation of the other houses then when they step in its just to late, I do think though that although to late there will be a strong group of factions who fight against Russians to the end of the age and we have a decent plan in place. I am not delusional though and I am fairly certain nothing can stop rusisans winning but we may be able to slow it down.

[Annini]

Hey, hey, hey, ffs, we didn’t lose yet. Its plenty of time to regroup

H15 will dissolve soon and then we can all focus on Russian alliance

@DrSepa, I understand you mate, but when we win, it will be remembered forever If it wasn’t this hard it wouldn’t be interesting. If it was an easy win than we'd left the game bored

@Firefly, it was very inconsiderate and neglect to restore the server when Americans are sleeping. You should have waited a bit longer in the afternoon.

@Juris, you are preaching here, you double-faced scavenger, you were razing people straight after server restore.

@marko7, get back to the game, put safe zone villas and ID 2-3 in war zone or Mali. This way you can work all day and join us for an 1-2h in the evening to raze few Russians

[TotallyNotMicha]

Hey, hey, hey, ffs, we didn’t lose yet. Its plenty of time to regroup

H15 will dissolve soon and then we can all focus on Russian alliance

@DrSepa, I understand you mate, but when we win, it will be remembered forever If it wasn’t this hard it wouldn’t be interesting. If it was an easy win than we'd left the game bored

@Firefly, it was very inconsiderate and neglect to restore the server when Americans are sleeping. You should have waited a bit longer in the afternoon.

@Juris, you are preaching here, you double-faced scavenger, you were razing people straight after server restore.

@marko7, get back to the game, put safe zone villas and ID 2-3 in war zone or Mali. This way you can work all day and join us for an 1-2h in the evening to raze few Russians

instead of saying that it should get back up later there should be at least warning or information on the client. not many people come here and read forums but everyone looks up in client and im sure that if people knew they would wake up at 3-4am just to id and go off to sleep again

about juris razing people after server restore i think you shouldnt complain about that as his faction was being razed aswell so why should he just watch how his players are getting razed but shouldnt take action? the one to blame in that situation isnt the player because its war game and you need to take advantage ofeverything but the one that was responsible for server restore and proper communication

[drsepa]

If this were just about losing then wouldn't me and my friends just go play another server? That shows you this has nothing to do with just losing. I have been on the losing side on servers and no big deal. You win some and you lose some (in many cases you do both, just depends on what you consider winning and losing). You just go play another server or farm for awhile and join back the war later on if you want.

You can still have fun while losing a war or glory round. You cannot have fun when you are constantly dealing with submitting tickets. What this guy did the other day is crazy ridiculous. If I had lost villages to him I would have been furious and most likely quit had they not rolled the game back.

Bottom line is they should have not allowed players to take advantage of this situation. No notice of when it was coming back online after the rollback (simple email would have worked with an exact time and date), or they should have given protection to everyone. Because neither happened many of my friends lost villages and I lost thousands of vassal troops (and those villages were in strategic places that now will most likely make it so we are not able to compete for that land eg. Jukester lost 3 villages in Papua because he did not happen to be online when the game turned back on and no ID due to rollback). I am sure H19 had the same thing happen to some of their players as well. I am not looking for advantage, I wish both sides had been made aware or given protection.

When you partner this situation with the fact I am tired of having to submit tickets to call out cheaters constantly I would hope you could see that is why I am frustrated and ready to quit the game and not just the server. But I also mainly play this game due to the friends I have and none of us know what we are going to do yet.

[Juris931]

yes annini , i razed only 1 village in total , a village of a player online from 20 to 24 hours a day , and don't tell me is possible be online so many hours everyday because we are all human
you are surrounded by russians that invaded with many charters , so they have no full castle , and you razed really lot of villages

"when we win, it will be remembered forever" are you joking ? where is this big win? russians fought all houses , from h1 to h20 and they are still at war without rest for 1 day
you have convinced themselves of your stories, continue to feed yourselves of your ignorance in your small groups of friends , keep telling your fantasies about russians and turning these fantasies into reality
words remain words , fact remain fact
look back at history , firefly implemented this nice thing

ps: i really hope you win , i want spawn to bother you all till the end , i am farming waiting for your victory , really

[Annini]

@DrSepa, We must overcome both cheaters and FF polices. To be honest I am seeing less trading bots and instant IDs. FF has done some banning I think. Sorry I am only trying to keep you on this server, we need everyone here to stand any chance.

@Juris, I have only respect for Russians. And maybe a little less respect for their Italian/French collaborators . Russians shrugged of the pressure at the beginning and I hope we will persist and turn this over in our favour as well.
Boba is same as you, online all the time and you know very well that he is just poor fighter fighting bravely against all odds.
Well we are all at war since day 9 when that ridiculous H16 CP (Loney or something) attacked us

[drsepa]

I will agree that SHK has done a much better job lately on following up on the tickets and punishing those that are cheating. I just am sick of having to submit so many. On W2, W3, W6 and USA1 I am guessing I submitted a total of less then 5 tickets. On EU1 and GC1 I most likely have submitted close to 100. That is what is annoying.

Now with that said, I do think H19 alliance does not all cheat and overall I think they are just better at this game then most other groups. They tend to get along better for the most part and obviously those that oppose H19 do not. I also give credit to H19 Alliance with an excellent strategy that worked for them on EU1 and GC1 as well, in which that they rotate players in and out of war zones perfectly in my opinion.

I do find it comical that when I submit a ticket on a player that is obviously cheating and then he is banned, I get hate mail from his friends saying I buy the admin and that I am weak because I submit tickets. It's almost like I am the bad guy for pointing out the cheating. That to me is ridiculous but I have had many in H19 Alliance say that to me. There are some in that alliance though that are very honorable and have even thanked me for pointing out players on their side for alt accounts.

I appreciate that Lord Benevolent is saying they screwed up on the way the rollback was handled and I realize that they (SHK/FF) were in a tough spot due to the situation BUT I will not agree that I am using this as reason to quit due to losing or fps or being tired of worrying about my villages. If you notice I have over 45 Days of ID on many villages and I have monkers helping daily on others which has allowed me to be healthy with fps (plus I used 2 vaca modes which helps). Which I even get hate mail for having players monk all that ID to me, even though I have legitimately gifted crowns for them to provide that ID. Which to me is well worth the few bucks it cost me to not have to be tied to the game constantly. I have been able to play casually because of it and actually enjoyed the game more because of it.

I will now stop complaining about the roll back fiasco because apologies were made imo and we all make mistakes. Not sure what me and my friends will decide but I am sure we will decide soon.