Wow really. You clearly do not know what you are talking about. I used to be the marshall of H10. From what I was told by old H18 leadership was H17 agreed that the officers in H18 can keep the towns in NY. When H10 and H18 merged, it put more H18 towns in H17 lands that was H10. I didn't know about this deal when I became the H18 marshall. Next thing I know H17 declares on H18 while we was in a war with H19. Saying it was because H18 had towns in your lands.Totant1 wrote:Terms for the peace after our first war with your house were you guys were supposed to clear out of NY. You NEVER did, until the second war that is. And we are the ones who violated? You guys gave us permission to raze them out if they failed to do so by a deadline. We gave until well beyond that, and still we looked the other way. Right before the second war, you guys combined with the majority of the remains of H10, and proceeded to take a lot of land way down into southern england. We fought you long enough to put a stop to that (4 days lmao). For us to stop attacking you, you offered to give us worcestershire (though it wasnt yours to give), and then you offered to H19 to give them worcestershire. Bottom line, you are the shadiest marshall in this server dude. You tell any and every lie you can to get people to give you what you want, and then you only keep your word as long as it suits you. So drop the act, apparently the only one buying is holden.
Now that is a marshall I can at least respect. He really knows how to work the diplomacy, hats off to him on that one.
As far as the NAP, I worked out, H18 was to leave H17 lands and H17 leaves H18 lands. H18 left H17 lands on the deadline. H17 did not leave and even came back and took a parish in H18 lands.
You say we offered Worecestershire, yes we did, we was in monk wars with H19 for it. It was flipping back in forth but we controlled it. We told H17 they can have it and we would pull out, but H19 told H17 they wanted it. Your marshall didn't want to figt H19 for it. So we gave it to H19.
When did I lie? please give proof. We made a NAP with H17, H17 didn't uphold the NAP. The player ChoppaChoc who wouldn't leave H18 lands in Berwickshire, Scotland and was in Eldrick faction, the marshall at the time. Choppa also took a town from H16 in H18 lands and tried to monk a parish in H18 lands. This was the other violation.
This was my reason I told H18 on why I wanted to go to war versus H17. Other leaders in the house had other agendas for going to war, like NY used to be H18 and other wanted to go to war because H17 declared on H18, while we was at war with H19.