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Re: Weather

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:33 am
by Dellwyndria
Good ! Heck man I know its hard. I work computer security on a forum. Its really hard sometimes not to say YO stupid do this not that.
/salute

Weather is still fine with me

Re: Weather

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:06 pm
by skitty67
Anyway after being the thread being derailed by a mod could someone please tell me if they feel the weather could be controlled at will by a dev.

I make no suggestion and never have That they do it in anyway to be evil or affect growth, but I feel they might control server activity with weather.

Just before update the weather seems to be bad, could the overall reason be to manage server traffic.

Just so we are straight on this, i have never thought this was done for evil purposes, never said this in fact I have stated before it would be more to manage traffic if anything.

Re: Weather

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:39 pm
by DavidSpy
You are using a special pleading fallacy in your attempt to discredit any factual data collected by DekeYoungAtlanta, until you acknowledge this we have reached an impasse.
Spoiler! :
Special pleading (also known as stacking the deck, ignoring the counterevidence, slanting, and one-sided assessment) is a form of spurious argument where a position in a dispute introduces favorable details or excludes unfavourable details by alleging a need to apply additional considerations without proper criticism of these considerations. Essentially, this involves someone attempting to cite something as an exemption to a generally accepted rule, principle, etc. without justifying the exemption.

Re: Weather

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:10 pm
by skitty67
DavidSpy wrote:You are using a special pleading fallacy in your attempt to discredit any factual data collected by DekeYoungAtlanta, until you acknowledge this we have reached an impasse.

Special pleading (also known as stacking the deck, ignoring the counterevidence, slanting, and one-sided assessment) is a form of spurious argument where a position in a dispute introduces favorable details or excludes unfavourable details by alleging a need to apply additional considerations without proper criticism of these considerations. Essentially, this involves someone attempting to cite something as an exemption to a generally accepted rule, principle, etc. without justifying the exemption.

That's a really well thought insult and it is an insult if you are referring to me, in fact its slightly libelous, because I am a person who thrives on facts.

What are the facts david?

Re: Weather

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:59 am
by Mechawalrus
i know they are being silly but you should just leave it alone

Re: Weather

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:50 am
by DavidSpy
skitty67 wrote:What are the facts david?
http://forum.strongholdkingdoms.com/vie ... 73#p134373

I have yet to see any factual information from your side of the argument.

Re: Weather

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:02 am
by DekeYoungAtlanta
Reformat into a spreadsheet for clearer understanding:

22 day average is +4.09 per day

Day Type -30 -24 -18 -12 -6 0 6 12 18 24 30
4.090909091 22 90 Storms Heavy Rain Rain Showers Drizzle Overcast Break in the clouds Sunny Spells Fine Weather Bright Sunshine Heatwave
1 1 1 3 1 4 1 2 3 5 0 22
5% 5% 5% 14% 5% 18% 5% 9% 14% 23% 0%
29-Jul-13 26 1 Storms -30 1
30-Jul-13 27 1 Heavy Rain -24 1
31-Jul-13 28 1 Rain -18 1
1-Aug-13 29 1 Showers -12 1
2-Aug-13 30 1 Overcast 0 1
3-Aug-13 31 1 Sunny Spells 12 1
4-Aug-13 32 1 Fine Weather 18 1
5-Aug-13 33 1 Fine Weather 18 1
6-Aug-13 34 1 Overcast 0 1
7-Aug-13 35 1 Sunny Spells 12 1
8-Aug-13 36 1 Overcast 0 1
9-Aug-13 37 1 Break in the Clouds 6 1
10-Aug-13 38 1 Fine Weather 18 1
11-Aug-13 39 1 Bright Sunshine 24 1
12-Aug-13 40 1 Bright Sunshine 24 1
13-Aug-13 41 1 Bright Sunshine 24 1
14-Aug-13 42 1 Bright Sunshine 24 1
15-Aug-13 43 1 Bright Sunshine 24 1
16-Aug-13 44 1 Overcast 0 1
17-Aug-13 45 1 Showers -12 1
18-Aug-13 46 1 Showers -12 1
19-Aug-13 47 1 Drizzle -6 1

Re: Weather

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:39 pm
by skitty67
DavidSpy wrote:
skitty67 wrote:What are the facts david?
http://forum.strongholdkingdoms.com/vie ... 73#p134373

I have yet to see any factual information from your side of the argument.
The only facts are that since this thread started the weather has been positive, but before that weather was unusually negative, although I am sure you will beg to differ on that and want hard facts and figures. Unfortunatly you got me there as normally when I come into a counter debate with someone I come armed with cold hard facts.

Next time I discuss the weather I will make sure that I have my facts at hand and a nice dataset for you to pick apart.



As for arguing isn't that against forum rules I wouldn't like to think I have been combatant with you.

Until next time cheers been nice being insulted by you yet again :)

Re: Weather

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:02 pm
by DekeYoungAtlanta
After 29 days the average effect for weather is +1.24 per day. Weather effects for the middle conditions are the most common.

Format into an excel spreadsheet for better viewing:



Day Type -30 -24 -18 -12 -6 0 6 12 18 24 30
1.24137931 29 36 Storms Heavy Rain Rain Showers Drizzle Overcast Break in the clouds Sunny Spells Fine Weather Bright Sunshine Heatwave
1 1 3 4 3 9 2 2 3 5 0 33
3% 3% 9% 12% 9% 27% 6% 6% 9% 15% 0%
29-Jul-13 26 1 Storms -30 1
30-Jul-13 27 1 Heavy Rain -24 1
31-Jul-13 28 1 Rain -18 1
1-Aug-13 29 1 Showers -12 1
2-Aug-13 30 1 Overcast 0 1
3-Aug-13 31 1 Sunny Spells 12 1
4-Aug-13 32 1 Fine Weather 18 1
5-Aug-13 33 1 Fine Weather 18 1
6-Aug-13 34 1 Overcast 0 1
7-Aug-13 35 1 Sunny Spells 12 1
8-Aug-13 36 1 Overcast 0 1
9-Aug-13 37 1 Break in the Clouds 6 1
10-Aug-13 38 1 Fine Weather 18 1
11-Aug-13 39 1 Bright Sunshine 24 1
12-Aug-13 40 1 Bright Sunshine 24 1
13-Aug-13 41 1 Bright Sunshine 24 1
14-Aug-13 42 1 Bright Sunshine 24 1
15-Aug-13 43 1 Bright Sunshine 24 1
16-Aug-13 44 1 Overcast 0 1
17-Aug-13 45 1 Showers -12 1
18-Aug-13 46 1 Showers -12 1
19-Aug-13 47 1 Drizzle -6 1
20-Aug-13 48 0 Overcast 0 1
21-Aug-13 49 1 Break in the Clouds 6 1
22-Aug-13 50 1 Drizzle -6 1
23-Aug-13 51 1 Rain -18 1
24-Aug-13 52 0 Overcast 0 1
25-Aug-13 53 1 Rain -18 1
26-Aug-13 54 1 Overcast 0 1
27-Aug-13 55 1 Showers -12 1
28-Aug-13 56 1 Drizzle -6 1
29-Aug-13 57 0 Overcast 0 1
30-Aug-13 58 0 Overcast 0 1

Re: Weather

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:34 am
by Orama
David and i have argued many times in the past, but the truth is that he is taking his responsabilities seriously and i have to acknowedge that. The weather altho crazy (raining in new mexico:)) is not part of a crazy conspiracy. Its craziest to say that we have castles in USA than bad weather in S.USA. It seems it is based upon an algorithm, that randomly generates weather with >0 . As a feedback, it would be nice to have different weather based on the geo location, but this would create more problems that it would solve. Perhaps on later updates, adding droughts, extremely hot weather, causing also negative effects , but thats smng o think upon. FFis now ocupied with Stonghold Crusader 2 (which btw need more info about, are there going to be new units? new maps, better AI?)