The thirst for power...

[thekpd]

The second age in world 5, is going to be interesting. Alot of things are going to change. People who may not have had power, or influence may find themselves in uncharted waters very rapidly.

[Adawulf]

Strategists are a dime a dozen. Fighters are worth their weight in gold. Fighters should talk, "strategist" should listen and learn how to become fighters.

[Adawulf]

No ginseng. Everyone is a strategist. Everyone can plan and think but few can actually put those plans into action. Strategists have no value without fighters to actually implement them. A person who doesn't play the game at all could look at the map and "strategize". There is no value in that. it is valueless. With all due respect, you are valueless to your faction in every regard other than perhaps holding a parish or two for them. You're value to yourself comes from a misplaced feeling of your own importance, and a belief that you are able to see things that others cannot. This is just an illusion as I will explain below.

In every faction there are only a handful of good fighters. In this entire world there are perhaps 20. But there are hundreds and hundreds, of useless strategists like yourself who all think they are geniuses. We don't need more of you. We need fighters. Particularly fighters with conviction and backbone of which there are perhaps 3 that I have met in all my time playing.

In your case, not only are merely a strategist, you are a common strategist who has offered nothing new or innovative in your thinking. You're simply advocating the same sheepish submission to what you believe to be inevitable as every other non-fighter. This is not new. it is not innovative. It is boorishly common and without value even as a mere strategy. Word 5 is already doing what you are advocating. They are already bending over and accepting the "inevitable" death of the world and domination by a single house. I suppose you could call yourself "the Sheep's advocate" in the sense that you attempt to advocate and justify the behavior of sheep. As opposed to the Shephard who guides you are simply among them.

Thus in conclusion, not only are you valueless as a fighter, you are valueless as a strategist. You bring nothing new to the table for your leader. You merely reinforce the common norm and justify the actions of the herd which is already doing what you propose. If anything you are the voice of the sheep baaaying your submission into the air. A wise leader would dismiss you.

[s0smo0the]

Just some food for thought coinciding the current happenings in World 5.
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Think for a moment: when offered power, is it power that you can keep or is it power that are simply shifted momentarily?

As my mentor once said to me before he retired to raise his young children (he's in his 60's): the promise for power can be a glorious fantasy, but power without stability is like dust in the wind.
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Yeah thats what I mean when I see 400 + members in 1 House as H1 what would those factions be if they stood alone? or in other houses. some are abusing H1 colors and the might of the top factions. and alot of parishs was stolen by H1 members simply by daring parish to vote against them, as all houses I hear. but if you have 1 village in the parish monk your way in against farmers, with the protection of that red flag. ALOT of you would have been razed out without fear of other H1 members.

which goes to being a fighter or sheep farmer

[Adawulf]

A good strategist can look at a situation that appears impossible and come up with new ways of thinking that make it possible. But that's not what this guy is doing. He's merely saying that it can't be done, so why try? And he has the audacity to call himself a strategist! Better terms for those types of thinkers are; Spectator, arm-chair general, bean-counter, defeatist or follower.

If there are any real strategists out there reading this, here's a project for you;

There is one house that utterly dominates our world. As a result we are speeding along to the 2nd age. Assuming arguendo that the 2nd age is not desirable, how would you go about stopping them?

[thekpd]

A good strategist can look at a situation that appears impossible and come up with new ways of thinking that make it possible. But that's not what this guy is doing. He's merely saying that it can't be done, so why try? And he has the audacity to call himself a strategist! Better terms for those types of thinkers are; Spectator, arm-chair general, bean-counter, defeatist or follower.

If there are any real strategists out there reading this, here's a project for you;

There is one house that utterly dominates our world. As a result we are speeding along to the 2nd age. Assuming arguendo that the 2nd age is not desirable, how would you go about stopping them?

You dont. You let the second age come. House 1 should win this first age without hesitation. SO we can get on with the 2nd age.
Like I said earlier... this second age comes with great changes, and new players who will emerge as not just great warriors, but strategists.

[Adawulf]

Get over yourself Ginseng. You aren't a factor here and I'm just a small part of W5 like yourself. The debate is about players, the SHK team, revenue, and what makes the game fun for us.

I admire the fighters who are making a stand against what appears to be inevitable, and I have contempt for the sheep. Especially the most recent additions to the bandwagon from H3 who are particularly pathetic. Players get scared, they don't want to lose their villages, so they either join the herd, or they go neutral. By this process the herd grows and consumes everything. Normally that would be OK, and just a natural part of online gaming that we have all seen many times. But with the addition of this 2nd age trigger, things have become very different. Now, fighting against the sheep takes on a new urgency.

Another good analogy (but maybe too real to apply to a game) would be the Native Americans trying to staunch the endless flow of European settlers who brought with them another kind of 2nd age. Was it for the best, or was it for the worst? Change is not always good, and even if hopeless I admire the fighters who stand against it.

It's a financial decision on the part of SHK. They believe they will make more money with these new rules. New servers always make good cash for the first couple of months, then the cash-flow stagnates. The thinking is that more new servers = more revenue, and old servers need to be phased out. Faster pace, more servers, more cash. It wouldn't be the first time a game was killed by accountants.

[Adawulf]

That sounds like a good plan Rexile. I would like to see something like that happen also. And I agree that it would be nearly impossible to set something like that up. At least we didn't wait until the very last minute to do something, and at least H9 is trying. What H9 is doing is a good start, and maybe they will inspire others to fight.

A common enemy brings people together. And H1 is the enemy of everyone on W5, at least they should be. I think it's possible that by fighting this great enemy together many old rivalries could be put aside and many houses could come together. We still have months before the next age starts. Who knows what might happen before then?

[thekpd]

House 8 is trying to be neutral still, which won't last forever.

no, we aren't trying... we are neutral. We have disconnected ourselves from problems outside of our own house. We have no ponies in the race persay.

[Millzy]

House 9 is fighting to prevent this world from going into the second age which is nothing but a fast pass to the end of the world and if we have to go down fighting we will, it's as simple as that, I don't need a strategist who knows nothing about our house to tell us what we should do and what is going to happen.

This war is incredibly fun already and if we lose I can happily quit this game after the being involved in the funnest war on this world so far (in my opinion), despite being enemies with house 1 I have made a lot of friends in there due to the fact I do not go along with the typical 'ma hows is betta dan ur hows n0ob' I treat people how they treat me.

If we win then I will remain on this world until the second age engulfs world 5 and by then I believe my time here will be over

I sense a lot of tension in this thread and players getting annoyed with eachother, We are in the middle of a war, this is what the game is based around, conquest, politics, diplomacy and if you can't have fun without having to speak to people like garbage, then honestly... why play?

Anyways this has been Millzy, Go f*ck yourself San Diego