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Ajr... It pains me to say it, but they won't listen... They'll just continue saying how they have to win, and how it's the point of the game and all that other nonsense...

Don't get me wrong... they're just in too deep to admit that they could(or ARE) wrong to do this... Proud to a fault in my opinion.

I think that is one of the most arrogant things I have ever heard. Because we are using the game mechanics as intended we are playing the game wrong. You play your game your way we will play it ours and stop whining about not being able to win an age. Game mechanics do not make a game its the people in the game that provide content. If you really think that changing the speed of an army or the cost of monking abilities will make an age boring then you have entirely missed the point. Personally the idea of going the age after age of pointless farming sounds a lot worse then total war. This is the golden age of world 5.

Adapt or Die but please stop with the bleating on the forums about how the evil h1 empire is ruining your game.

Then you're reading it wrong, trying to make me sound like some terrible guy I guess.

We just don't want to make the (and they admit this) mistake of moving the age on like world 1 and mir 1 did.

As for the farming jab? I don't care about that man... I enjoy fighting. If there wasn't such a huge number difference between our war... Then it'd be even more fun for both sides I'd imagine... Point is. I don't want to stop the glory rounds to stop fighting... I want to stop it because I'd rather continue fighting for a long time to come.

I'm not whining about not being able to win an age... If you think that then it is you who's missed the point of this whole war...

I've never called H1 evil.
I didn't say you're playing the game wrong.
Didn't whine about not being able to win an age.
Stop stuffing your words in my mouth.

You guys argue and argue, but you won't recognise the ONE single factual piece of evidence of how the second age will be, the state of the worlds that've already made the 'Great Leap Forward'.

How is someones opinion a fact?

This debate is going to dramatically change once the 2nd age actually starts. At that point our forums are going to look a lot like the W1 forums. Post after post of people complaining about how unfun the game is, and how much they hate it now.

I don't think "game mechanics" is even the right word for the 2nd age. It's a financial ploy. It's just a ploy to sell more cards, and open more servers.

When you think of the 2nd age you have to imagine the accountants telling the devs how to write the game. It's a financial ploy to use "game mechanics" to force players to spend more money.

I'm all for capitalism and if it makes more money then I guess that means the game will be doing better. But, I predict it will actually result in less long-term revenue because players will start to quit. It will generate some short-term increase in revenue but long term damage to the game and the loyalty of its players.

The 2nd age is what happens when game developers take orders from accountants. It's the same thing that has killed many really fun games and turned them to sheit.

The best thing to do is read the other forums where they already have a 2nd age. Talk to people who play there, make a village there.

Blitzen I noticed you put the word "opinion" in green to try and make a point or something? Of course it's opinion you idiot. What else could it possibly be? Do you think there's an objective scientific standard to determine what games are more fun for various types of people? This is a debate about opinion so it's going to involve a lot of opinion obviously.

And the best way to determine what the opinion of most players is, is read their forums, talk to them and make a village on a 2nd age world. The point I'm making is that in my OPINION the 2nd age makes the game less fun, and I believe in the long run there will be fewer players on those worlds that have the 2nd age. You are entitled to disagree with that.

Instead of yapping at me about it Highlander, why don't you go to the world 1 forums and argue with them? You can tell them how, in your expert opinion the 2nd age is totally awesome! Here's a link to one of their discussions.

http://forum.strongholdkingdoms.com/vie ... 37&t=23237

Jelly you are very, very stupid person. Clearly. Let's talk about the difference between opinions and facts.

When discussing something that is a matter of opinion such as your favorite color, or your favorite movie you are dealing with things that are subjective as opposed to objective. Subjective topics have no independent basis in truth, they are simply matters of opinion. It can be a fact that your favorite movie is Mary Poppins, but that doesn't mean that Mary Poppins is in fact the best movie.

For example, if I ask Jelly what his favorite type of doughnut is and he says;

"Jelly Doughnuts"

that statement, although factual is merely an expression of his opinion. It is a fact, that Jelly likes jelly doughnuts, but that doesn't mean that jelly doughnuts are in fact the "best" kind of doughnuts, because preference in doughnuts, or anything else is purely a matter of opinion. There is no best doughnut, there's the one that you like but it might be different from what someone else likes.

Conversely if I were to ask ask Jelly how much he weighs and he said "315 pounds" that is a fact. Obviously Jelly doesn't want to weigh 315 pounds and his weight has nothing to do with his opinion, it's how much he actually weighs.

So in our examples above Jelly's preference for doughnuts is a matter of opinion, but his weight is a matter of fact. Consider these two statements, they might help you understand the distinction;

"It is a fact that Jelly doughnuts are the best kind of doughnuts in the world"

"In my opinion Jelly weighs 315 pounds"

Do you see what's wrong with those two statements?


To make it even more confusing opinions are often used as facts in court. When an expert witness gives opinion testimony that testimony can be used as evidence of facts. Opinions actually can be facts in some contexts. And of course you can state a fact about a persons opinion.

*Edited to prevent a triple post on the topic*

evanjellyman wrote:Im a science bachelor, I think you need to go back to school mate.

Nice trolling though

A "Science bachelor" what does that mean? You're in college working on an undergraduate degree in "Science"?

evanjellyman wrote:graduate if you must know

edit: and yes, bachelor of science is a degree (lol?)

OK well that makes a little more sense. When you said you were a "Science Bachelor" you sounded like almost as much of an idiot as when you said OPINIONS ARE NOT FACTS

What country are you from? In the US we say "Bachelor of Science" but maybe wherever you're from they say "Science Bachelor"

But either way it's not like you can't be an idiot while still in College. I met a lot of idiots in college.