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 Why the war started (for those who don't understand) 
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Why the war started:

After several months of peace following the last conflict, Scotland was in a peaceful stance with House 10 and as evidence we allowed 31 House 10 parishes to live peacefully among us within Scotland, not including all of the Irish that we integrated into Scotland as part of showing our willingness to work with those who had laid roots here.

Just over 4 weeks ago there was an insurrection attempt by Rivistot, GreysonMactire and a minority of the Black Aces - The Empire faction in Dumfries. We were internally tipped off of the impending situation by several members who felt that what the few members who were planning this action were dishonorable especially since Scotland had accepted them with open arms for several months at that point.

This situation was treated as an internal scottish criminal issue and it was made clear that we did not hold Ireland responsible for the actions of these few players. In addition Dave1 personally denounced their actions and publicly stated that he did not authorize or support their movement. After much discussion we only retaliated against the primary 3-4 aggressors within the Black Aces - The Empire faction and did not attack the rest of their entire faction as we knew from the aforementioned thread that many did not support their direction and were just victims of bad leadership.

During the several days that this situation was being dealt with a few things happened that became diplomatic issues with H10. One, in response to the situation with Dumfries a very limited amount of H10 players, primarily working under the orders of one of your leaders named Metaphysical began running operations in two locations against House 2 players.

Firstly, there were several out of the blue completely uncalled for razes against House 2 officers within Scotland. Apparently Rivistot and GreysonMactire had convinced several elements of House 10 that eliminating villages from our somewhat inactive because she was moving former House Marshall and Sheriff Cleo56 was a good idea. We were able to offset the vote manipulation they attempted and prevented serious fallout from the situation but it still stood that there were completely unwarranted and unprovoked attacks happening to Cleo56 and several other House 2 players that caused a signifigant loss for Scotland for no reason whatsoever and without any provocation from Scotland.

Second, in Southern England, during our war with House 17 which had absolutely nothing to do with the Irish, House 10 suddenly invited and accepted Sammiedog into their ranks. This was totally unacceptable as they had basically directly recruited a current enemy of an existing war under the pretense of claiming the two counties which he had posession of at the time. This coincided with aggressive monking activity against our presence which we had earned fighting in the Isle of Wight before H10 had even begun to think about that area.

These actions were taken against House 2 with no provocation towards House 10 and even after the our high level sheriffs and diplomats villages had been razed and monking operations continued against us, we did not react aggressively. Not a single monk, scout, or soldier was sent at any player in Ireland or any of the House 10 players which remained in the 30+ parishes that we allowed on our mainland.

It was during this time that our High Marshall Bloodbird reached out to Dave1 to find out what the deal was with Metaphysical and his crew razing our villages and the actions in southern england against our territories in the H17 battle. We made it absolutely clear that we did not desire the actions of a few bad apples lead to a full blown war with Ireland. Dave1 responded that Metaphysical didn't check with him or Joeblow and that their actions were solitary in nature and regretted that those things had happened without proper diplomatic inquiry from elements within House 10. He did however note to Bloodbird that many of the aggressive players in House 10 were eager to fight and that they had been complaining constantly about being bored with the game.

It was only days after this, probably less than a week since the original insurrection attempt in Dumfries that Dave1 personally declared Ireland as in a state of war with Scotland in a teamspeak conversation with Bloodbird. We had no intentions of initiating this war and we didn't want it, it was brought upon us. Once Dave1 made the declaration we took a few days to decide how to react and began our own military operations to begin cleaning up the House 10 parishes that we had living peacefully among us and started to land in Irish territories as a response to the declaration and a ton of impending monks and captains that were coming at Scotland from Ireland across the water.

Please understand I'm not trying to paint you a pretty picture, the above account of the start of this war is exactly how things transpired as I was very active and online 2/3 of every day from the Monday at 3am when it started throughout the declaration of war by the following weekend and even spent sessions with no sleep for days at a time making sure the peace was kept while dealing with all of these things until Bloodbird could speak with Dave1.

I hope this explains a bit more about why we are at war, because Dave1 declared in against us unprovoked because several of his players were bored...

Respectfully,

Anicca


Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:19 am
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All very nice and useful, but Ireland was also at with h17 when you were, since h17 had an "agreement" with h6 and their allies, and we were at war with them. In fact H17 invaded Cork about the same time h2/12 were invading East Anglia.

So all sammiedog did was surrender to ireland rather than to scotland, h17 had their remaining territory in South West England, essentially surrounded by Ireland.

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Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:00 pm
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Sure, thank you for the insight. This is written from the Scottish perspective as that is all I can speak to. I'm not very familiar with the dynamics of Ireland/Wales/England at the time aside from our involvement against House 17 at the time. I just wanted to make the information known to clear up rumors and such because it seems many people are misinformed or never understood why this was happening over the last 6-8 weeks.


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hello annica remember me!!!! your friend in louth. i love how you put the time in to make this and it really helped. thanks once again


Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:54 am
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Tbh I think most of h10 is inactive and moved on to world 6, were totaly exsposed to h2 and 12 now. Well if this war is going to hold on the sever will go dead in a couple of weeks and people will just move on to world 6.


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I know right, a ton of players who are fed up or are losing the war are just going to W6 to claim power and wage Alderman wars. Even though a new world is meant for new players, it is often occupied by experienced players ready to own the newbies.


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New world are for new players or for losers that are to scared to rebuild and keep fighting. a smart player will replace their villages and be as much of a pain as possible.


Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:57 am
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But what does h2 want? it seems to me there forcing everyone with different color away atm. Becayse of some people half of ireland now got to suffer. all the strong players left and those who are willing aren't even ready yet to face this house. Unlees h2 wants full domination and empty server I suggest they come up with a proper explenation of what they really want with the war.


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For anyone that wants to know why this war is continuing.


Even after h11 and the SEA had agreed to a ceasefire. They continued to monk h11 parish and raze/ capture h11 villages in h11 territory. This was in clear violation of The agreed to ceasefire and we contacted both HM to get the issue resolved. After about 2 days of the attacks and monks not stopping H11 ended the peace talks as SEA broke the ceasefire repeatedly and forced H11 to defend itself. Again H11 did not break the cease fire by declaring war BUT SEA broke it by not respecting the Ceasefire. These are confirmed facts and we have many reports confirming that the Ceasefire was not up held By any of h12/9/13/2. This was a great oppertunity to bring a good portion of this world to peace and the SEA have destroyed it.


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And this is the problem, h2 is doing there own way not respecting ceasfire, people do not get the chance to recover. h10 is almost at it's end. the whole reason started with h10 but now it seems as lame excuse just to capture and raze everything on it's path. Good to know tough loveaduck got house full of backstabbers.


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