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 Are you for or against the way World 2 is governed? 
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This is maddness, i was wrong now i realized how long those cowards and "warriors" have lasted. Sadly im on there side in war but i wont be if there is no change to come. Its about time some other house becomes ruller. One that is worth it. Not the evil house 2 that as many say make other houses/facftions do there biddings.

From now forth I am no longer cheering for h2. from now on i am cheering for all the other houses to all unite!


Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:00 pm
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World 2 has been won.. everyone accept this and move on.. I did.. Alot of you seem to forget that H2 was an underdog house for a long time. H2 fought its way thru 2 civil wars to emerge as the superpower in Ireland.. we then fought hard vs H3 and earned the win on that world. It may seem to some of you people that came to the world later on that h2 and its allies are everywhere and that people just rolled over to allow that to happen but that just isnt the case.. We worked hard for it and I am proud of my members and friends i made along the way.

H2 FTW..

see you guys on the other worlds
(if you got what it takes =P)

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Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:33 pm
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pouet wrote:
countjimula wrote:
Did you play sports like this when you were a kid? Did you play dodge ball on a team of 20 against one and pat yourself on the back for your great success after repeatedly beating that one player? Why is this so different? Why are you a member of TCA? Why don't a few of you join that one kid on the other team to make it a real game again?


SHK is not a sport, and there are no rules about equilibrating the teams. That game is not only about throwing a ball on the other team to win, there are different ways of playing, of thinking. Beiing in a faction or another is not related to "oh, ennemy team is weak, I should join them". It's related to people you know, people you care, and people with similar objectives and way of playing. Why should I join a faction which the main goal is to destroy everything because they are bored and mad against "ca" and "h2"? There are no reasons. I've been with my faction since my first day of playing, they answered my questions, they helped me when I was a village idiot. While you were complaining against how bad that world is, they were sending me resources and giving me advices on castle building.

Complaning won't help to grow the SHK community. Try watching around your villages, sending welcome mails to newcomers, ask if they have questions, need help. But hey, newbs won't help you to complain, to join the resistance and fight the big bad TCA heh?There are plenty of new players everyday, but 80% of them never reach Bumpkin rank.Why? that game is difficult for them, there is a lot to assimilate, and they don't have support.


The way I see it, from the outside is this....

New players don't make it past Bumpkin for more than the reasoning that it is difficult, or slow. Most can see fairly easily that the World is dominated by a couple of Houses. So they either join the winning team, or quit because they see their chances of real progression are slim. The TCA/H2 have an iron grip on everything. Smaller houses can do very little without their "permission" and may have to wait weeks, or even months at a time for a chance of even possibly taking a Parish if one opens.

I personally have been playing for almost a year now. I've worked my way up from nothing to a Faction Leader and now a House Marshall. I have had 6 Parishes....at one time anyways. Most I have given to Faction members, or House members for outstanding service....but a few I have just been screwed out of because of the TCA. But on the other side of the coin...I have gained a couple due to the TCA being negotiable.

You can make gains....but it takes time and effort. LOTS of time and plenty of effort. But for me...as a Marshall....it seems almost impossible as a lower end House Leader to progress due to nearly EVERYONE being part of that winning team. Seems everyone wants to front run. Seems everytime I try and recruit players or Factions, I can't because I get bombarded with emails telling me to drop them because they are enemies of the TCA or my House could face consequences. That, or those I try and recruit decline because they are going to...guess who.

There comes a point where things have to change so the game is fun for all and not just the few select.

Anyways..what I am getting at is instead of complaining on the forums, organize and do something about it. Even I realize that the TCA isn't going to just roll over and concede for the good of everyone being able to have fun. They worked for what they have and to get where they are, do the same. Only problem seems is (from observation)...there are spies everywhere, and if it appears you are trying to make a game of it and challenge them...they put it down before you can get started. This is a form of tyranny...like it or not. But I think to myself....is this current situation that bad? And do I want to really trade one tyrant for another? Another that could be better...or far worse. This is what keeps me in the game....the politics. Politics get you further in this game than brute force...believe it or not.


Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:27 am
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there is one of three ways for W2 to become fun again for all those who play it and not just for the select few in high places.

1: W2 Civil War happens because of the mistreatment of other houses by house 2 and the other top 3 houses who most likely ran by other house 2 members.

or:

2: FF game designers get fed up with it all and start leveling heavy fines against house leaders and the head of the ca.

2.5: FF game designers get tired of it all and reset world two and either leaving R&D alone or resetting everything and warn against another formation of ca.


Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:26 pm
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Mors Mortis wrote:
there is one of three ways for W2 to become fun again for all those who play it and not just for the select few in high places.

1: W2 Civil War happens because of the mistreatment of other houses by house 2 and the other top 3 houses who most likely ran by other house 2 members.

or:

2: FF game designers get fed up with it all and start leveling heavy fines against house leaders and the head of the ca.

2.5: FF game designers get tired of it all and reset world two and either leaving R&D alone or resetting everything and warn against another formation of ca.

I seriously doubt that the last two could ever happen. Maybe some form of 1 though.


Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:47 am
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Hi all. Let me just start by saying wow. As a lowly noob who, for around a month, has been content to build up his solitary village, farming and trading and researching and merrily destroying AI castles for no other reason than the satisfaction of getting a reward for time put in, I feel no shame in admitting that I had no freaking idea any of this was going on. I feel like I've been living under a rock. On Mars. With my fingers in my ears and my eyes shut. I came to this forum to find some information but I can't even remember what it was because I've been stuck reading this thread.

From what I can gather, a dude/chick named Mors Mortis is slightly annoyed by some people in house 2 as they go about their business on world 2. It seems that Mors Mortis believes that the members of H2 have gained too much power, and are wielding said power for ill, rather than for good. As a resident of W2, I was intrigued by his/her complaints, as I have a liege lord who is a member of H2. This person asked me to become their vassal, showed me respect and promptly sent a large amount of resources as a thank you when I accepted. They have not bothered me since. This was before I became aware of the * fight that has been occurring in W2. I now have a faction invite from a non-H2 faction. As I consider whether or not to accept this invite from a faction belonging to a house that it seems is an active enemy of H2, I wondered whether a neutral party could give me some perspective.

It seems as if some players want H2 to leave W2, or at the very least, give up some power in order to provide an environment in which members of other houses can play freely without threat of razing for daring to challenge the might of the mighty H2. As an outsider, this seems a bit like native Americans saying, "Alright, you people have won, now give everything back so we can start again cause it's no fun anymore." Obviously, real life is not video game but it seems to me, an admitted lowly noob (side note: How is "noob" still marked with a squiggly red line as a mis-spelled world? It's 2012 ffs), that H2, for good or ill, must have worked very hard to obtain the power they now enjoy and are reaping the rewards of time put in. Something I can relate to.

TL;DR: Is Mors Mortis and the other who agree with him/her justified in their complaints? It seems to me that the same basic game rules that H2 followed in order to gain control can be used by other houses to take it from them. Am I wrong? What the fudge is going on and can someone please help a brother understand?


Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:59 am
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the moment you join an h2 enemy you will either be warned to leave or you will be destroyed by the very person you allowed to be your LL and believe me you will see how fast a friend will turn to a foe more so h2.

@Joeblow5150
funny how you never disputed my comment about how thanks to the ca w2 has become farmville stronghold Kingdom style for those who have become a ca member.

and let me ask you joey what will happen when ca finely gains full control over all of w2 and there is no longer any enemy to fight?

I bet you will look for whatever excuse to attack a fellow ca member.

Am I wrong?

I think not.


Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:37 am
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Okay, so I joined the rebel faction cause I'm a rebellious kinda guy. The thing is, other members of my new faction have LLs belonging to H2 and other houses in the so-called celtic alliance. If they are so evil and controlling, how is this possible? These are well established villages that have been allowed to prosper under the iron rule of the ca.

I'm not doubting you when you say that you've had a bad experience with H2 and the rest of the ca on W2 and I'm not defending them or anybody else; I'm just wondering why, if what you say is to be believed, this enemy house is allowed to exist in their territory when it would be no trouble at all for the Empire to destroy us. We have fifteen villages in the entire region. There are enemy villages as far as the eye can see. Yet one of our members has three villages in a H2 controlled parish.

Is there a benefit to NOT wiping us out completely?


Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:09 am
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The entire house has only 195,096 Points. The player with the most points in this world has about 130k points.

As long as you do not attack someone, or take a parish, I doubt you will be attacked, it would just be silly, and bad PR for the Celtic Alliance now that you are talking in this thread.

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Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:32 am
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;) Head of the class for you, sir.

It begins.


Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:51 am
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